KATHLEEN:
DanIsNotJudas (2:09:09 AM): I already talked to Shir and Amanda and they both said they wanted to keep me.
DanIsNotJudas (2:09:26 AM): Animal is keeping Bridget and I havent spoke to Dick yet but I sent him a PM
Allison/Kathleen (2:10:52 AM): alright
DanIsNotJudas (2:11:05 AM): so it could very well end up being a tie
DanIsNotJudas (2:13:11 AM): so I guess at that point, it has to be about what is going to be better for you
Allison/Kathleen (2:14:47 AM): hmmm makes sense lol ... i think either way it would be the same lol
DanIsNotJudas (2:15:46 AM): well not really. me and angie are not the same person.
DanIsNotJudas (2:16:27 AM): keeping one over the other would change things a lot because we could be merging into one house soon too
DanIsNotJudas (2:16:51 AM): you have to think about who has more allies on their side and that could be more dangerous to you
DanIsNotJudas (2:17:28 AM): Like Angie has almost all the heroes backing her up. Jee, Brian, Casey, Taylor, plus Animal and idk how close Dick is to her.
DanIsNotJudas (2:18:42 AM): if she stays, she would still be targeting you. You already know she has been before.
DanIsNotJudas (2:19:36 AM): Like yeah I nominated you with my partner but as far as Im concerned we are even and I wouldnt be targeting you at all if I stayed.
Allison/Kathleen (2:20:00 AM): well... you could be saying that to save your ass... lol js
DanIsNotJudas (2:20:44 AM): of course. But at this point, even in staying, its not like I would be in a great position anyway. I have no reason to just bs you.
DanIsNotJudas (2:21:59 AM): if you were to keep bridget instead, she'd still target you and probably shir. If she goes, at least you could remain close to animal and dick without having bridget around in their ears too
Allison/Kathleen (2:22:25 AM): arent you stronger in comps than bridget
DanIsNotJudas (2:23:35 AM): In some comps sure, and same goes for her. The point is, even if I am stronger, I dont have anyone to hide behind or allies who would just stick their neck out for me like they would for her.
DanIsNotJudas (2:23:47 AM): later in merge, she wont have to win because she'll have people protecting her
DanIsNotJudas (2:24:04 AM): that makes her a bigger threat imo.
Allison/Kathleen (2:24:28 AM): well i honestly dont buy that we will be good ~ cuz you lied to me be4
Allison/Kathleen (2:24:42 AM): at least i know angie would be after me... but i dont see her winning anything
DanIsNotJudas (2:25:20 AM): she came just as close to winning hoh as me or shir did
Allison/Kathleen (2:25:44 AM): well i guess she can win a "luck" comp or whatever
DanIsNotJudas (2:26:56 AM): I understand that its hard to trust me after what happened week 1, and Im not passing blame but I did have a partner and we were equally as responsible.
Allison/Kathleen (2:27:24 AM): the thing is... you shouldnt of been promising deals if you cant keep them or didnt speak to jessica bout them
DanIsNotJudas (2:28:00 AM): I know and I did speak to jessica about them and then all that rumor crap happened
Allison/Kathleen (2:28:03 AM): i know there are pros to keeping you
Allison/Kathleen (2:28:09 AM): but there is also with angie
Allison/Kathleen (2:28:15 AM): i wish the vote wasnt gonna tie
Allison/Kathleen (2:28:20 AM): or possible tie ~
Allison/Kathleen (2:28:38 AM): cuz i dont wanna be responsible for you guys leaving... even tho i am hoh and youre up cuz of me lol
Allison/Kathleen (2:29:32 AM): and okay be honest with me lol
DanIsNotJudas (2:30:12 AM): sure
Allison/Kathleen (2:30:26 AM): were the nominees always gonna be me/brian & kail/erika?? cuz i dont buy that it was "rumors"
DanIsNotJudas (2:30:39 AM): no they werent.
Allison/Kathleen (2:30:53 AM): i dont care if they werent rumors lol
DanIsNotJudas (2:31:11 AM): noms were gonna be erika/kail and will/james
DanIsNotJudas (2:31:15 AM): then all that drama started
DanIsNotJudas (2:31:26 AM): and will is a good talker lol
DanIsNotJudas (2:31:33 AM): i will give him that much
Allison/Kathleen (2:31:42 AM): okay
Allison/Kathleen (2:31:45 AM): so will talked to you guys
Allison/Kathleen (2:31:48 AM): then it changed to us?
DanIsNotJudas (2:32:46 AM): yeah because he was the one to come to me with how the rumors started.
DanIsNotJudas (2:33:01 AM): he told me that people were saying we would nom you and brian, him and james or erika and kail
Allison/Kathleen (2:33:07 AM): lol
Allison/Kathleen (2:33:13 AM): well hes the one who brought it to us lolol
DanIsNotJudas (2:33:24 AM): and that makes sense to me lol
Allison/Kathleen (2:33:26 AM): ik
Allison/Kathleen (2:33:34 AM): he was like
Allison/Kathleen (2:33:35 AM): go for hoh
Allison/Kathleen (2:33:43 AM): and then blah blah
DanIsNotJudas (2:33:52 AM): I know
DanIsNotJudas (2:34:20 AM): it wasnt like the easiest thing for me, kathleen. then having jessica in my ear too saying we need to keep james and will. i hated that.
DanIsNotJudas (2:35:05 AM): ugh my wireless sucks right now
Allison/Kathleen (2:35:08 AM): ph
Allison/Kathleen (2:35:19 AM): Dan (9:33:56 PM): I know
Dan (9:34:25 PM): it wasnt like the easiest thing for me, kathleen. then having jessica in my ear too saying we need to keep james and will. i hated that.
itfz88 (9:34:42 PM): ok sounds fair
itfz88 (9:34:52 PM): since i never spoke to jessica but still... didnt have to promise anythin @_@
Dan (DanIsNotJudas) is available
Allison/Kathleen (2:35:19 AM): my other question is
Allison/Kathleen (2:35:25 AM): i heard last round
DanIsNotJudas (2:36:28 AM): sorry what was your other question
Allison/Kathleen (2:36:40 AM):
Dan (DanIsNotJudas) is available
itfz88 (9:35:21 PM): my other question is
itfz88 (9:35:28 PM): i heard last round
itfz88 (9:35:35 PM): you, will, angie were tryna get me to be the replacement
itfz88 (9:35:45 PM): true/false
Dan (DanIsNotJudas) is available 9:36 pm
Dan (9:36:32 PM): sorry what was your other question
DanIsNotJudas (2:37:15 AM): nope. I know Will was trying to do anything he could to stay
DanIsNotJudas (2:38:02 AM): Jason even said that he wasnt putting you up so what would I have to gain by trying to get you put up
DanIsNotJudas (2:38:28 AM): and with how crazy Cody got lol I wanted him out more than anyone
DanIsNotJudas (2:39:00 AM): he manipulated me and jessica week 1 so I knew what he was capable of
Allison/Kathleen (2:39:18 AM): okay
Allison/Kathleen (2:39:20 AM): well idk how
Allison/Kathleen (2:39:23 AM): youre name was brought into it
Allison/Kathleen (2:39:27 AM): your*
DanIsNotJudas (2:40:05 AM): my name is brought up into everything, even when i dont do anything. its ridiculous.
DanIsNotJudas (2:40:29 AM): in this game. the dynamics are so different. I really dont see myself as this crazy threat.
DanIsNotJudas (2:40:42 AM): If had a lot of allies to help me, then I would say yeah Im dangerous
Allison/Kathleen (2:40:55 AM): could be lying
DanIsNotJudas (2:41:45 AM): Im really not lying though Kathleen. Yeah Im on the block and Im pleading my case
DanIsNotJudas (2:42:44 AM): but that doesnt mean Im lying. Im just trying to say that I dont have much in the game and strategically its smarter to get rid of the bigger social player who will most certainly be dangerous later
DanIsNotJudas (2:43:12 AM): i am not known to win clutch comps and I didnt make f2 either
Allison/Kathleen (2:44:28 AM): alright
Allison/Kathleen (2:44:47 AM): well i dont wanna promise anything lol........ cuz ive been going back and forth with this decision
Allison/Kathleen (2:44:58 AM): and like i said... i hate being the sole voter if it comes to a tie #_#
DanIsNotJudas (2:45:10 AM): I know. I dont envy your position on that lol
Allison/Kathleen (2:45:19 AM): if i hated someone
Allison/Kathleen (2:45:21 AM): it would be nice
Allison/Kathleen (2:45:23 AM): lol
DanIsNotJudas (2:46:06 AM): lol i know and I kind of feel like I am at a disadvantage because I wont be around tomorrow
Allison/Kathleen (2:46:53 AM): when will you be back
DanIsNotJudas (2:46:53 AM): so tonights the only time I can talk to people. I mean, it really seems like its gonna tie unless Dick decides to keep me too
DanIsNotJudas (2:47:01 AM): not till after the voting deadline
Allison/Kathleen (2:47:09 AM): alright
Allison/Kathleen (2:47:13 AM): well
Allison/Kathleen (2:47:19 AM): ill be on be4 the deadline unless i fall asleep
Allison/Kathleen (2:47:29 AM): and will talk to ppl lol
Allison/Kathleen (2:48:21 AM): so lets say it ties... i keep you... and you win hoh... who do you nom?
DanIsNotJudas (2:49:18 AM): ive thought about this and since i was kept in the game, i was honor that and take it as a sign of good faith that we could actually work together in the game later on
DanIsNotJudas (2:49:29 AM): and I'd nom the people who voted me out
DanIsNotJudas (2:49:57 AM): thats the fairest way I can do it because I will not nominate you at all. pre veto or post veto
DanIsNotJudas (2:50:10 AM): and I wont nominate the people who keep me
Allison/Kathleen (2:50:19 AM): lol what happens
Allison/Kathleen (2:50:23 AM): if the 2 ppl who vote you out
Allison/Kathleen (2:50:24 AM): win pov
DanIsNotJudas (2:51:21 AM): thats a big what if lol but if that did happen, Sheila would be the other option because I'd feel obligated to help out the people who just kept me.
DanIsNotJudas (2:51:40 AM): After what happened week 1, Im not in the game to just break promises left and right
DanIsNotJudas (2:51:55 AM): i made that mistake already and I make a conscious effort to learn from my mistakes
Allison/Kathleen (2:52:51 AM): lol i know i sound like a bitch but i really do find it hard to believe it
DanIsNotJudas (2:53:17 AM): I know and no you dont sound like one. I understand
DanIsNotJudas (2:53:36 AM): but i have never said that I disliked you or actually told people I want you out.
DanIsNotJudas (2:53:42 AM): I've never said either of those things
DanIsNotJudas (2:54:15 AM): yeah I made a mistake week 1 and have regretted it since because I wasnt happy to do it.
DanIsNotJudas (2:54:30 AM): But keeping someone who has said they disliked you and want you gone
DanIsNotJudas (2:54:38 AM): over someone who knows he fucked up and would rather work with you
Allison/Kathleen (2:55:07 AM): oh
Allison/Kathleen (2:55:12 AM): so angie dislikes me?
DanIsNotJudas (2:55:18 AM): I thought you knew this?
Allison/Kathleen (2:55:39 AM): well i didnt know she "disliked" me
DanIsNotJudas (2:56:09 AM): i really thought i told you that in the first week
DanIsNotJudas (2:56:15 AM): i coulda swore i did
Allison/Kathleen (2:56:16 AM): no
Allison/Kathleen (2:56:18 AM): you did not
Allison/Kathleen (2:56:19 AM): lol
DanIsNotJudas (2:57:18 AM): ohh my bad. i really thought i did
Allison/Kathleen (3:00:23 AM): #_# why does she dislike me lol
DanIsNotJudas (3:00:40 AM): i dont know.
DanIsNotJudas (3:00:47 AM): maybe cuz you're a girl and people like you
Allison/Kathleen (3:00:52 AM): LOL
Allison/Kathleen (3:00:54 AM): nice reason
Allison/Kathleen (3:00:59 AM): i really have a wiener
Allison/Kathleen (3:01:00 AM): jk
DanIsNotJudas (3:01:05 AM): well that is why her and jessica didnt get along
DanIsNotJudas (3:01:11 AM): lol
DanIsNotJudas (3:01:16 AM): im just guessing cuz i really dont know
Allison/Kathleen (3:01:25 AM): oh
Allison/Kathleen (3:01:27 AM): i thought jessica
Allison/Kathleen (3:01:29 AM): cuz angie wanted
Allison/Kathleen (3:01:33 AM): taypizzs peen
Allison/Kathleen (3:01:35 AM): and jenna was on it
DanIsNotJudas (3:01:37 AM): lmao
DanIsNotJudas (3:01:43 AM): that was part of it too
Allison/Kathleen (3:01:47 AM): lmao
DanIsNotJudas (3:01:49 AM): love triangle
Allison/Kathleen (3:01:54 AM): like a real BB :-!
DanIsNotJudas (3:01:57 AM): haha ikr
DanIsNotJudas (3:02:22 AM): but yeah, bridget uses her sex appeal to manipulate the guys and she's good at it
Allison/Kathleen (3:02:27 AM): i know
DanIsNotJudas (3:02:31 AM): who can use my sex appeal on?
DanIsNotJudas (3:02:32 AM): =-O
Allison/Kathleen (3:02:35 AM): the girls ;-)
DanIsNotJudas (3:02:38 AM): haha
Allison/Kathleen (3:02:39 AM): or guys sincem ost are guys
Allison/Kathleen (3:02:40 AM): gays
Allison/Kathleen (3:02:41 AM): jk
DanIsNotJudas (3:02:42 AM): lol
Allison/Kathleen (3:02:44 AM): again
Allison/Kathleen (3:02:45 AM): lolol
Allison/Kathleen (3:02:46 AM): sorry :-!
DanIsNotJudas (3:02:52 AM): lol its okay. that was funny
Allison/Kathleen (3:03:03 AM): well i am considering keeping you lol
Allison/Kathleen (3:03:10 AM): i know youre a good talker
Allison/Kathleen (3:03:24 AM): and will be so mad if you lied >
but who cares i cant win hoh next !!
Allison/Kathleen (3:03:49 AM): but it really is smart to take out the social threat
Allison/Kathleen (3:03:53 AM): if you ever read past seasons
Allison/Kathleen (3:04:08 AM): i was close with cass aka chelsia who was the runnerup in the AS season
Allison/Kathleen (3:04:15 AM): no one took her out cuz she was likeable
Allison/Kathleen (3:04:22 AM): and i had a chance to do it but i didnt
Allison/Kathleen (3:04:30 AM): then we got owned by her/cody
Allison/Kathleen (3:04:31 AM): lol
DanIsNotJudas (3:04:41 AM): lol
DanIsNotJudas (3:04:48 AM): mhm and cody is crazy good
Allison/Kathleen (3:04:54 AM): i believe
Allison/Kathleen (3:04:58 AM): he was lucky :-! in the first AS lol
Allison/Kathleen (3:05:03 AM): near the end lol
Allison/Kathleen (3:05:05 AM): but he is GOOD
DanIsNotJudas (3:05:09 AM): lol cuz he won comps?
Allison/Kathleen (3:05:09 AM): its not even funny
DanIsNotJudas (3:05:14 AM): or just talked his way through
Allison/Kathleen (3:05:27 AM): he won comps... cass was the social threat
Allison/Kathleen (3:05:42 AM): the thing is ... one comp
Allison/Kathleen (3:05:42 AM): that was the most epic fail for me
Allison/Kathleen (3:05:47 AM): is i would of won it lol but i forgot to put
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:00 AM): kc AV/SIG for change #_#
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:03 AM): and lost by a point
DanIsNotJudas (3:06:07 AM): awww
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:09 AM): and the 2nd comp was
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:12 AM): we posted the same
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:17 AM): this was f5 hoh btw
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:25 AM): we had to get a certain page or whateva
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:29 AM): we both did it in 6 mins
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:32 AM): and kc said the TB
Allison/Kathleen (3:06:56 AM): was like who hit the page first... he apparently was watching both of us lol... so cody won that :@
Allison/Kathleen (3:07:02 AM): then i choked in the pov
and got voted out :3
Allison/Kathleen (3:07:23 AM): LOL but anyway he really is good
DanIsNotJudas (3:07:24 AM): lol what? cheap TB
DanIsNotJudas (3:07:25 AM): imo
Allison/Kathleen (3:07:28 AM): ik
Allison/Kathleen (3:07:31 AM): i was pissed lol
Allison/Kathleen (3:07:34 AM): but oh well
DanIsNotJudas (3:07:51 AM): well i think you could compare taylor and bridget to cody and cass
DanIsNotJudas (3:07:56 AM): taylor is a comp threat, bridget the social
DanIsNotJudas (3:08:10 AM): taylor is laying low right now I think
DanIsNotJudas (3:08:16 AM): and not winning much
DanIsNotJudas (3:08:17 AM): but he will
Allison/Kathleen (3:08:24 AM): i forget hes even there tvh
DanIsNotJudas (3:08:25 AM): and if bridget is around with him, watch out!
Allison/Kathleen (3:08:26 AM): tbh
Allison/Kathleen (3:08:35 AM): lol
DanIsNotJudas (3:08:56 AM): like, merge is coming soon.
DanIsNotJudas (3:09:05 AM): it has to be
DanIsNotJudas (3:09:35 AM): i dont have the allies she does. im even scared of her in merge even though we are friends
Allison/Kathleen (3:10:07 AM): yeah
Allison/Kathleen (3:15:17 AM): anyway ill make sure ill be on be4 deadline and speak to jack/shir
DanIsNotJudas (3:15:41 AM): okay thats cool.