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Post by Alex on May 14, 2011 14:36:35 GMT -5
 Congrats on making the finale you two! This is a combination I would of never imagined. Despite Sheila's interference in the integrity of the game, you should be proud to have made it to the end. I don't think she had ever helped or hurt either of you two, so I won't be holding her actions against you guys. The cheating did however mess up the rest of the game and we'll never know what would of truly happened. I think myself, Sarah, and Allison were most affected by it. So I'll be addressing the issue here as Allikat is in Pre-Jury and Sarah already posted hers. I could see you both at least making the final 6, the time Sheila was caught. So even though I think the winner won't be 100% it's time to wrap this up. But we'll get to that later. NICKWuzzy, I knew you'd be here. I think it's no secret I was a Nick fan ever since I joined the Jury. I saw a lot of similarities in us from the beginning of the game to our time on Heroes. I think we entered the game having a lot of relationships that would carry us as far as we could, leaving us to be the last two to be nominated. You were pretty much untouchable in this game. Even when you made actions that were against myself and other allies, we didn't want to target you. Your social game was pretty tastic. What you did that I respect is that you were able to play both sides when it was Sheila and I battling it out. I knew you were doing it, but I still wanted to trust you. You kept a low profile during our war and you really stepped it up in the end game, saving yourself (whether it be through winning competitions or making deals.) I think of all the people left in the game who survived Sheila's cheating, you were the person most likely to still be here. But enough lovin' on ur game. I gotz questions. 1) Was Angie leaving the game when she did beneficial to you? (Despite her being your number one ally) Do you think it's a big reason as to why you remained safe for so long? Did it help unite "Angie's boys"? Perhaps put a target off you? Do you have any regrets about how you could of protected Angie during my HoH, but didn't? Looking back, are you glad she left? Or would you risk your spot in final 2 just to have a chance at making it to the end with her? 2) This is a pretty generic question but I want to know what you think is your biggest move in the game. Show any doubters of your game that you made some bold moves. I know you've made a lot, but I want you to state one that you think separates yourself from the rest that ultimately helped you reach the finals. I ask as your opening statement didn't highlight what it should have regarding your game choices. 3) Using all the players who made the merge (From Angie to Jeff) I want you to list the order of who you would of liked to be in the final two with the most to the least. Include a short reason as to why you'd want to sit next to them/not sit next to them more/less than other players. THEN say if you think you would lose or win against each of those players. I won't find it cocky if you think you would of beat everyone, lol. Just looking for honesty. I like this question in that it shows individually why you are here and why we all are not based on your choices. & It also may show the order of how you valued your allies. JEFFCongrats on making it here! I think you're a really nice person and we get along outside the games, but on a game level this is looking like mission impossible for you. In all seriousness you need to wow some people if you want to win this. (Just being straight up with you) You said how the Pre-Jury didn't "know" your game. But neither does the Jury! So you're gonna need to fight hard. While playing the game a lot of people have perceived your final two opponent to be one of, if not, the top player this season. But is perception reality? That's what you need to show. Although I'm leaning in the other direction as far as a Jury vote goes, I think it'd be rude of me to completely shut you out especially when you're a friend. I haven't been a fan of your game so make me one. Question time! 1) One thing that bothered me in your opening statement was that you credited Natalie and yourself as a reason to why I went out. I don't believe that's true at all. At the time I'd of given the credit to Sheila (which obviously now I don't) I don't think being a "vote" that I could of had made you a reason I left. Same goes for Allison. I don't see you as a reason she left either. I'm fine with you stating that you jumped on the chance to evict us, but I don't support the comment "Me and Natalie really had a big hand in both these evictions." Explain why you think you were. 2) This quote also bothered me. As one of the victims of Sheila, I felt it pretty inaccurate and cocky. Not saying I think I'm the best, but how can you think you are better than all us who left the game in an unfair manner? Do you truly think you were the best player of the non-winners or was it an exaggerated statement of happiness after winning an important veto? 3) Most important question for you of them all - why is your game better than Nick? Why should you win over him? What did you do right? What did he do wrong? This is the most important one to sell us! (Or at least me lol) Questions for Both of you.1) Let's say Sheila was evicted at the final 13. Play out the rest of the game for me. People who you think would of won certain competitions, make it happen. Start off from Nick winning HoH at final 12. (I doubt Amanda could beat that whammy score. But if you think she could of go for it  ) I know this question is a huge "what if" but I'm curious to see how you perceived all the alliances people had with one another and how protected people were. Ultimately, who did you see as the final two? I'll also be looking at your answers for any other game moves in other Juror's questions. Good luck!! This was an epic season, and it should end that way. Sorry if this seems like a lot xD It's mostly commentary from me.  |
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Post by Alex on May 14, 2011 19:20:27 GMT -5
^ short answers are fine. I know it seems like a lot, but I'm not expecting you to write me essay responses. As long as your points are made, there is no need to ramble. I'm not looking for the greatest speaker either just the better game. Oh and, please don't lie. There are people in jury who would be happy to call you out and it will only work against you. Good luck. |
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Post by Saint Nick on May 15, 2011 4:39:47 GMT -5
Even though she was my number one ally, Angie going, helped me out tremoundously.  It's the same situation I was in with Jenna. I was so close to both of them and everyone knew that. If she hadn't have left when she did it was only a matter of time before people tried splitting us up and if I was up against her I knew I wouldn't have had certain people's votes. Do I think Angie leaving secured my safety with people? Mehh..yes and no. I mean like I said I think people would have went after me if she was in the game but I hope people don't think that the only reason I wasn't targeted was because I she wasn't there any longer. After she left I was able to focus on other deals, playing both sides, and creating new alliances and that's what kept me safe for so long. "Angie's Boys/Taylor Gang", (yes lmao I love the name Taylor Gang, it's catchy) was actually created the week of the merge. Basically when Angie failed to get the Tree Prize we all took a step back and slowly put the pieces together to align. After Angie was evicted, I guess I'd say that made us tighter. If I had a magical power that could change one vote from Angie to Sheila to tie the vote, I wouldn't do it. Like I said in Sarah's thread, I wasn't here to play for my duos. Yes they were my final 2's, (Jessica/Angie/Eric), but I played this game for me and only me. I sound like a heartless bastard, but I wasn't messing around this time lmao. I did anything and everything I could to get to the end, even if that meant losing I think I've made a few bold moves, some being early in the game and some way late, but the one that sticks out to me helped set me up so well that I was able to reach the Final 8 without any speedbumps. Evicting James was a huge turning point for me and it got me into this, I guess I could describe it as a groove? It may not seem like it impacted my game but it most DEFINITELY allowed me to play sides for a long time. James was aligned with Sheila. James was a flippy floppy liar. James served absolutely no purpose to my gameplan in the slightest. With Sheila just escaping eviction he was coming off the block with allies left and right. He needed to be, idk, knocked down a peg I guess. So when he asked if I'd evict Jeff I knew it was perfect to not only not give him what he wanted it but allow me to execute what I had been wanting all week, which was to get rid of James. . Shadz you were campaiging to get the votes for Jeff to stay and when I evicted James it hella made you look like you pulled that shit off like amazingly (which imo got you targeted for being a "manipulative threat"), which you did because you did get 5 votes. I felt like because I kept James the other 5 people that did too were good with me. On the other side, there were people who didn't get what they wanted (Jeff staying) but I still was able to keep myself from being targeted by them (making deals & being aligned with half of them already lol). This puts me directly in the middle and I was like crazy proud of myself cause I felt like no one was after me (even though Allison/Dick were schemin to get me out soon!). You won HoH again right after and again took out an ally of Sheila's, which only worked in my favor *cues Tranny departure* Being the new HoH I realized that I was in danger with Allison/Dick so them leaving back to back was the cherry on top of the cake for me. I was in the final 10 with the following alliances: (Alex-Eric-Nick-Sarah-Will) and (Casey-Eric-Jee-Nick), and I had individual deals with (Jeff/Natalie/Sheila). That's basically...everyone lmaoo. So basically to sum this up, evicting James was a catalyst in being able to play both sides. I really hope that made sense lmao, it's late, if you don't understand something ask for specifics.
If you didn't like this answer you can go ahead and ask what I thought another good move of mine was gogogogo.
Most DESIRED Final 2:
1. Eric - He and I fought our asses off to get as far as we did. He was the only one I trusted 100% from Final 15 on. I think he played for us rather than himself, so I think I'd win.
2. Angie - For the D'awww factor. lmao. I think we'd make a nice final 2 *shrug* As for who'd win? I think it would be close, depends on the jury.
3. Jeff - Well, it's what I got so I can't say I didn't want it right? lmao. I think I have a good shot at winning.
4. Jee - He was loyal to me for most of the game lolz and I was to him so I would have had no problem taking him to the final 2 had I been given the opportunity. I think I woulda won.
5. Natalie - She'd be fun to take to the final 2 lol. Plus it'd be neat to see her there a 3rd time  i think i probably woulda won.
6. Alex - If I was playing an honorable game where I take the most deserving to the final 2, it'd be you. I'm not playing that game though cause I think I'd hands down lose to you. I just think we'd make an excellent final 2.
7. Casey - There is always something going on with you. You're deserving, but I think you'd give me a run for my money. I think I coulda won against you? But it woulda been close.
8. Sarah - I wouldn't want her there because she's good at what she does she'd beat me probably.
9. Will - There was a time where I thought it'd be cool to go to the final 2 with you but you didn't reciprocate the same feeling. Thats why I lost interest. Depending on if you had a lot up your sleeve, I think I coulda won.
10. Amanda - We never really connected during the game so taking someone to the final 2 that I have no relationship wouldn't happen. I'd win.
11. James - ummm, I don't really see him as worthy of final 2 in this all-star season lol. I'd win.
12. Allison - I think she could potentially kick my ass in the final 2 lmao, I think we play similar games so it's hard to say whoooo would win.
13. Dick - This would be a boring final 2 lolz. I'd win  lmao, i'd hope to god I would.
14. Sheila - He's kind of a douche. I'd win cause I PLAY FAIR! lolz
Least DESIRED Final 2
Final 12 - I win that HoH still! Everything plays out as it did. Dick is evicted.
Final 11 - Natalie still wins that HoH, she still nominates Casey/Jee. I know I did really good in the Projector competition so I win the veto and play the role of Sheila, with Allison being backoored.
Final 10 - Alex wins HoH and nominates...Amanda/Jee to clean up some shit. Alex wins veto and keeps nominations the same. Amanda is evicted because "Taylor Gang" has 3 votes plus Sarah keeps Jee cause they're aligned.
Final 9 - Jee wins Rainbow Road and nominates Alex for nominating the week prior and Will for being a threat. Will wins the veto by a longshot and Jeff is replacement. Alex is evicted for being a threat.
Final 8 - I win the Pumpkin HoH and put up Sarah/Will cause im paranoid there is something between them. I give it all I have to win the veto and keep nominations the same. Will is evicted.
Final 7 - Eric using the advantage he got from the last veto wins HoH. Nominates Jeff/Natalie. Casey wins veto and uses it on Natalie in hopes Sarah goes up? lmao. idk. Eric puts up Jee. Jeff is evicted instead.
Final 6 - Casey wins HoH and nominates Eric/Nick. I win the veto like I did IRL and Casey puts up Sarah. Jee/Natalie evict Eric.
Final 5 - I win HoH and nominates Casey and Jee!!!! Sarah randomly wins the veto and doesn't use it. Casey is evicted.
Final 4 - Sarah wins HoH and who cares who she nominates cause it doesn't matter. Sarah wins veto and I'm evicted by Jee.
Final 3 - Sarah wins slider puzzle and Jee wins Gauntlet, Sarah wins final HoH and evicts Natalie
Final 2 - Sarah wins the game intense
lmao that was fun. I hope no one takes that seriously, thanks for the questions Cat! |
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Post by Sarah on May 15, 2011 10:35:05 GMT -5
Lol I woulda taken Natalie if that actually happened lmao! |
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Post by Alex on May 15, 2011 10:59:07 GMT -5
Thanks frog!  What's green and smells like pork? |
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Post by Sarah on May 15, 2011 11:11:15 GMT -5
kermit?
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Post by Alex on May 15, 2011 11:13:37 GMT -5
kermit's finger
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Angie
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TEAM TAYLOR...and prejury![Mo0:86]
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Post by Angie on May 15, 2011 11:18:00 GMT -5
Gross
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Post by Alex on May 15, 2011 11:29:59 GMT -5
heard it on the radio |
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Post by Sarah on May 15, 2011 12:11:42 GMT -5
Ewwwwww
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Post by Jeff on May 15, 2011 23:20:32 GMT -5
1) One thing that bothered me in your opening statement was that you credited Natalie and yourself as a reason to why I went out. I don't believe that's true at all. At the time I'd of given the credit to Sheila (which obviously now I don't) I don't think being a "vote" that I could of had made you a reason I left. Same goes for Allison. I don't see you as a reason she left either. I'm fine with you stating that you jumped on the chance to evict us, but I don't support the comment "Me and Natalie really had a big hand in both these evictions." Explain why you think you were. I say I had a big part in your eviction because of my alliance with Sheila and Natalie. We were all working together to get you, Allison and Sarah out. I also credit myself for not letting Sheila change her mind to go after Will. I reminded her of all the reasons you needed to go. Nick pointed out that I talked a lot about voting with him to save you. The fact is I was never going to save you. My vote had already been cast. I was more feeling out where Nick stood with things. I said a lot this game that I didnt mean. It was all to propel myself further. 2) This quote also bothered me. As one of the victims of Sheila, I felt it pretty inaccurate and cocky. Not saying I think I'm the best, but how can you think you are better than all us who left the game in an unfair manner? Do you truly think you were the best player of the non-winners or was it an exaggerated statement of happiness after winning an important veto? I knew this comment would come up. If anyone knows me, you know I am not a cocky person. Its one of the things I hate the most. So that is definitely not the way I intended it. I was stoked that I won the most important veto, and I was more pointing out that it was me and a bunch of winners left. I would never say I was the best out of all of you to gloat. Thats just not me. A lot of different things happened this game to make it happen the way it did, but the fact is I was the last non-winner left. Sometimes the big players leave. But thats just Big Brother. And I didnt let myself get voted out for being a threat. 3) Most important question for you of them all - why is your game better than Nick? Why should you win over him? What did you do right? What did he do wrong? This is the most important one to sell us! (Or at least me lol) I feel I should win over Nick, because I have literally only felt really nervous for one week in this game. Every other week I was quite confident I would stick around. I did however have to worry about a few of my allies. But I still managed to make each week fairly easy for “Me”. I was thinking about me this game. I made a lot of different alliances/deals/what ever you want to call them. I took the knowledge I gained of myself and my game and used it to get me to the end. I was in a position of safety for a lot of the game. Nick on the other hand seemed to lose his game at the end. His strategy changed at the end and he now needed to fight to carry on. I think we played similar games. We used relationships to secure our spot. Competitions werent on our mind. However I did not need to start winning in order to get my spot at the end. Nick said this is because he was a threat. That is obviously a flaw in his game. His whole strategy was to use his social game. Mine was the same. The only difference is I did not let myself become a threat. I began this game day 1 with one mindset, and thats what I ended it with. I didnt have to change things up. Sure there were times when I almost went out, but I didnt. 1) Let's say Sheila was evicted at the final 13. Play out the rest of the game for me. People who you think would of won certain competitions, make it happen. Start off from Nick winning HoH at final 12. (I doubt Amanda could beat that whammy score. But if you think she could of go for it ) I know this question is a huge "what if" but I'm curious to see how you perceived all the alliances people had with one another and how protected people were. Ultimately, who did you see as the final two? Final 12--- Everything happens the same Final 11--- Natalie still wins. I think if Sheila had gone, this week would have been much different. I dont think Natalie would have gone with Jee and Casey. Although...I still think Allison would have left. It just wouldnt have been a backdoor. Final 10--- Alex still wins HOH, and still goes after Amanda Final 9--- Jee wins HOH, and goes after Will. Will dominated this veto, so he still wins it. Natalie still goes. Final 8--- Nick was second, so Nick wins this one. I guess I will go with the same answer as him Final 7--- Eric wins HOH. I am gonna agree with Nick and say I could have easily gone this round. But I still think I would have been in a good position to change it around. I was tight with Casey. We had a F2 at this point and a F3 with Jee. Im gonna go with him saving me. Sarah and Alex are up, and Alex goes. Final 6--- with Casey as HOH, he does in fact go after Eric and Nick. Nick wins veto, and Eric goes. Final 5--- Since this is a what if, lets say I win something here  I nominate Nick and Sarah. Sure lets say Casey wins veto. No usey. Nick goes home. Final 4--- Lets go with Jee winning HOH. I gotta say im getting confused with coming up with all this. lol Jee nominates Sarah and Myself so Casey feels safe with him. I win veto again, and evict Sarah. Final 3--- Im gonna go with Jee winning final hoh. He evicts Casey For a long time I really wanted to see this as the Final 3. Who the hell knows what would have happened without Sheila. So I just went with what I would have liked. yay! |
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Post by Sarah on May 15, 2011 23:33:45 GMT -5
lol true. The final rounds were pretty much competition based so anyone could have gone at f5 and f4 |
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Post by Alex on May 15, 2011 23:43:03 GMT -5
Thanks Jeff! sidenote: I don't think me and Sarah would of been up at the hands of Eric lolol |
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Post by Sarah on May 15, 2011 23:44:30 GMT -5
Animal prob woulda thrown it before winning an hoh that would force him to nominate 2 allies. I know animal well  |
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Post by Jeff on May 15, 2011 23:45:15 GMT -5
Ah but you see you forgot about that crazy thing that happened at Final 8. Dont you remember?  Yea you pissed Eric off. |
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) I know this question is a huge "what if" but I'm curious to see how you perceived all the alliances people had with one another and how protected people were. Ultimately, who did you see as the final two?
It's the same situation I was in with Jenna. I was so close to both of them and everyone knew that. If she hadn't have left when she did it was only a matter of time before people tried splitting us up and if I was up against her I knew I wouldn't have had certain people's votes.
i think i probably woulda won. 
lmao, i'd hope to god I would. 
I nominate Nick and Sarah. Sure lets say Casey wins veto. No usey. Nick goes home. 
