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Post by Nat ~ on May 8, 2011 22:12:56 GMT -5
i did not destroy our alliance. if i had wanted to destroy our alliance i would have nominated the two of you, which would never have happened. although i know i pissed you off when i nominated kathleen i still wanted to be close with you guys, BUT you guys knew for sure that i wasnt the person you would most likely go out on the limb for, while i had a gut feeling, telling me that i wasnt either of your number 1 ally. i obviously had to do something to help me. yes it ended up backfiring, but it wasnt like i was after you guys and what not. i understand shir not fully trusting me, although in the long run she could have. and same with you shadow. even though it was stressfull as all hell for me, i would have loved us three and jason or billy to be end game. or even cody because we got super close before i was evicted.
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Post by KC on May 8, 2011 22:29:05 GMT -5
There's going to be a shitstorm when you people read HC :-!
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Post by Alex on May 8, 2011 22:56:29 GMT -5
I think you did  . Your mindset was "doing whats right for me" when it should of been "doing whats right for peen," because doing what was right for peen was right for you - it would of taken you, me, shir a whole lot farther. (under the circumstances of sheila not cheatin yaaa) You exposed our alliance to people, made a move in fear of another move by Allison that could of happened at like final 7, and left us completely vulnerable. Me and Shir out of the game left you as easy pickings for the taymal alliance. There's going to be a shitstorm when you people read HC :-! what does this mean! |
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Post by Alex on May 8, 2011 23:00:55 GMT -5
oh and I still stand by the belief that casey/jee noms were 100% ur best interest - not mine lol
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Post by Nat ~ on May 8, 2011 23:02:27 GMT -5
well to be honest, you and shir were doing what was right for you and the other person. you two had eachother looking out for eachother. i was just one of a few people you guys had looking out for you. I started this game out fully believing the 4 of us would go to the end, the nwe lost jenna, and the wya you both talked to me about game and the end game, finals and what not made it clear i was not the person going with either of you, so of course i did what i could for me, its what i felt was right at the time for me, but it didnt destroy the alliance. i think all of us had TERRIBLE communication, and i shouldn't be the only one blamed for that.
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Post by Nat ~ on May 8, 2011 23:03:59 GMT -5
and im sorry but getting to final 7 with you kathleen shir animal and taylor and whoever else? god we know that would have been a terrible final 7 for me.
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Post by Alex on May 8, 2011 23:08:46 GMT -5
me and shir were still 100% with you and looking out for you as well. you could of easily joined up with anyone else at f4/f5 to go against that final 3 where u were on the outs. you made a move at final 11 in fear of being third place? lol wayyyyyyy to early
besides, allison wouldnt of even made f7 probably. she had will and nick hardcore after her. she was also at odds with jeff.
casey/jee would of probably nominated you. (along with us) which is what we couldnt understand.
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Post by Nat ~ on May 8, 2011 23:19:56 GMT -5
me and shir were still 100% with you and looking out for you as well. you could of easily joined up with anyone else at f4/f5 to go against that final 3 where u were on the outs. you made a move at final 11 in fear of being third place? lol wayyyyyyy to early besides, allison wouldnt of even made f7 probably. she had will and nick hardcore after her. she was also at odds with jeff. casey/jee would of probably nominated you. (along with us) which is what we couldnt understand. i did it when i had the people to do it with. it wasnt the wrong move for me. kathleen and i had ABSOLUTELY NO communication before the week i nominated and had her evicted. regardless of whether or not jee eventually took me out, i had more conversations with him than i had with kat. yes i could have tried to join up with someone at final 4/5 but who knows if that person would have been closer to you or shir? like kat. or taylor, or animal, really i think you two had a lot more people in this game closer to you than i did. i don't think we're ever gonna fully agree about this, and thats fine. there is a lot of coulda shoulda woulda in the game, and its over with, and yeah what i did backfired on me, but you cant determine who is gonna win challenges after you do, and what not. like we both said, we all still had eachothers backs, but we cant say anything about what was gonna happen next, like whether or not kat would have made it to final 7. with you left in the game to keep her safe, then she very well could have stayed, and made it to the end game, especially if i went against my gut instinct, and happened to win a challenge. there are a lot of things that could have happened if someone had stayed in the game. like me evicting andi week 2 didn't have to happen, she would have helped me in the game up to probably final 5 or 6 if i had kept her here. i think thats what bothered me the most. we made an agreement at the early stages of the game we would take out eachothers allies so we didnt have to take out the people we were close to our selves, and you guys fought SO hard to keep kathleen around, it made me believe that it was the right move. |
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Post by Alex on May 8, 2011 23:40:25 GMT -5
we fought so hard to get you to nominate the people who would nominate all of us. the fact that it was kathleen wasnt the main concern. all I saw you doing was taking out someone who wasn't nominating any of us in the weeks to come.
oh and of course people would of joined up with u at f5/f4.. me and shirs alliance was about as obvious as tay/animal loolz
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Post by Will on May 9, 2011 0:44:48 GMT -5
I just skimmed through some of all that stuff and didn't read it all... but Nat getting Allison out of the game moved Nat to my #1 ally in my rankings. Instead of going to final 5/7 with that huge group your all talking about, she could have gone to final 3 with Sheila and I.
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Post by Alex on May 9, 2011 1:29:26 GMT -5
I just skimmed through some of all that stuff and didn't read it all... but Nat getting Allison out of the game moved Nat to my #1 ally in my rankings. Instead of going to final 5/7 with that huge group your all talking about, she could have gone to final 3 with Sheila and I. I never said anything about a group of final 7  and thats just it. she did ur dirty work. u were after allison. allison was after you. she was safe with allison. |
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Post by Alex on May 9, 2011 1:33:38 GMT -5
and ps- you would not of went to final 3 with sheila/natalie. that's like you going to final 3 with nick/eric. so come off it, hoe
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Post by Sarah on May 9, 2011 7:24:30 GMT -5
I agree. Lmao. Cody, don't be stupid. I personally have watched you play in a gazillion games and no way in hell were u going to f3 with Sheila and Nat.
And that f7 is silly. I wasn't trying to have that f7. I just thought getting rid of a common enemy made more sense at the time as opposed to someone who was coming after Cody, Tay and Billy at the time. 3 people that I wasnt even against, BUT would leave me completely out of getting any of it done myself.
We were at f11, so I do believe all of that was too early because she was coming after people that none of us were coming after, which was smart to have around.
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Post by Sarah on May 9, 2011 7:26:26 GMT -5
BUTTTT this is all moot because Jason would have foiled all the plans anyway. This prob wouldn't have been an issue to begin with because he would have left at f13.
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Post by Sarah on May 9, 2011 12:45:37 GMT -5
And Cody, this game was just stupid because I was trying SO hard to not be associated with u and in the end it made no difference. Shoulda let it be  |
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. Your mindset was "doing whats right for me" when it should of been "doing whats right for peen," because doing what was right for peen was right for you - it would of taken you, me, shir a whole lot farther. (under the circumstances of sheila not cheatin yaaa) You exposed our alliance to people, made a move in fear of another move by Allison that could of happened at like final 7, and left us completely vulnerable. Me and Shir out of the game left you as easy pickings for the taymal alliance.
