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Post by Nat ~ on Apr 9, 2011 3:57:27 GMT -5
yeah i made a lot of mistakes in the game. i was trying to clear things up with taylor, i guess it was too little too late. such a long story i guess. the gist of me telling taylor about the alliance was it happened when i was frustrated at the way you and shadow were acting towards me, and i needed to clear things up with tay. obviously i did it when it was far to late for me to be doing it and it didn't work in my favour, but i was trying to make him understand why i'd been so wishy washy this game. i cant deny i was wishy washy. it was really hard, because i was being pulled in entirely different directions for a good portion of this game and it got frustrating.
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Post by Sarah on Apr 9, 2011 21:17:48 GMT -5
eric winning hoh means either jeff or sheila are joining us next. i would LOVE it if will wins veto, uses it on one of them and then jee goes up i would LOL so bad. anyway, at least nick and eric are safe <3
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Post by Sarah on Apr 9, 2011 21:31:30 GMT -5
shadow and i weren't trying to act anything towards you. i think you took it as an attack because u were so hell bent on 1. making a move and 2. taking kat out. we weren't being aggressive with you, we were just telling you like it was and the truth is, you didn't want to hear it. you thought that because jason was being supportive with what you felt u wanted, that he cared more. the thing is, we knew more than jason did. we pushed and repeated ourselves because we knew we were right, not because we were trying to control you. in retrospect, i think you can agree that taking jee out or casey out was a good move because 1. their 4some alliance and 2. jee was solely responsible in taking u and me out, lol. and if say casey was gone, we would have more room to play with the votes as opposed to relying on a 3some block vote. yeah, we didnt have this information back then, but we did say both casey/jee were dangerous to us as an alliance whereas kat was close to all 3 of your allies, including jason... which btw, dont even get me started on his reasons for wanting her out. i cant even begin to understand his motives. he may win his way to the end of the game, but i think its the ONLY way for him to make it there. with kat still here, he would have a far better chance.
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Post by Nat ~ on Apr 10, 2011 2:07:59 GMT -5
I agree with some of what you said. But you can not honestly say that you weren't being aggressive with me. Yes you believed what you were saying was right and in retrospect it might was BUT only because of how comp wins went. If jee hadn't won the hoh that took me out I think I would have a huge shot at being in the game still. Yes jee leaving instead of kat during my hoh would have probably been better had I known that jee would win hoh and cody would win veto. But I didn't know that was going to happen. Couldn't have either. Aside from jee, I was set up pretty good after my hoh reign. I wasn't hell bent on making a move just to make a move either by the way. Kat may not have been after me immediately, but like animal I had no game relationship to her at all. You and shadow did and iit made me nervous. I did what I though I had to do and it bit me in the ass. I admit it. I tried to play a different game then I usually would and even though it didn't work out the way I wanted it to, I am still happy with my attempt. Now that it honestly doesn't matter, will you PLEASE tell me the truth about when you and shad formed your final 2?
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Post by Nat ~ on Apr 10, 2011 2:12:20 GMT -5
Ok my grammar was terrible there. Please forgive it since its impossible to correct from my phone. Also I'm kinda bleh about eric winning hoh. I don't want to see my boys here billy said he made a deal with animal and animal said regardless of if he's nommed or replacement he has nothing to worry about. But idk how much truth there is to that,m seeing as you know animal better than I do.
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Post by Nat ~ on Apr 10, 2011 2:34:56 GMT -5
Ohhh and you can't say I wasn't hearing or didn't want to hear what you and shadow had to say because originally I did nominate both jee and casey and I did see them as threats but truth be told that week when I was hoh I had no enemies in the game at all, since no one was directly after me I wanted to take out someone I had no game relationship with at all. Cody kathleen and animal were the three I originally wanted and after talking to you and shad I went with casey/jee. But I realized that wasn't right for me and that I wanted to take out someone I had no game relationship with. Animal I had promised safety too the week he was hoh so I kept that promise. Cody, I started building a relatuonship with that week, so it left kathleen. Yes I can see where you and shadow were coming from gamewise, but it felt a lot more of a personal reaction to me. I don't see how from the position I was in at that point, with no one directly after me, why it would be a bad move for me to take someone out of the game that I had no game relationship with. You can keep telling me she was going to help me and the people I was closest with, but really with you animal shadow and jason all more important to her than I would be later on in the game, I figured I could try and get in with casey/jee while I had a chance. Yes you me and shad had our alliance and I was loyal to you two but I didn't have to be loyal to kathleen just because it helped you, just as you didn't have to be loyal to jason just because it would help me. We talked about it at the beginning of the game. We would all have to take eachothers allies out eventually. If I didn't take kathleen out I probably would have just handed you or shadow the win in this game. And while I would be happy to have seen either of you win this game, I was not gonna sit by and play for third. I know you said I wasn't, but I know you and shad got close and I think my gut is right in saying you 2 had a final two way prior to my hoh win. But the gist of my post here is saying that while I was playing for the peen alliance, all 3 of us had separate games and had to do our own thing. Mine just happened to be more public because I won hoh at probably the worst opportune time and not only that, but went about it wrong.on top of that, we were all here and playing to win, so I think there is a good possibility there is a lot more to your game then I know, and I think there could be some truth to the things that I was told about shadow during my hoh run. Doesn't change a thing about how I feel about both of you. This game was just ridiculous.
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Post by Sarah on Apr 10, 2011 8:19:47 GMT -5
We weren't being aggressive, at least we weren't trying to be. It's all in the way you perceive it. Towards the end, when u decided u wanted to backdoor kat, we got extremely frustrated because we felt like it was black and white. I understand u not wanting kat with us close to the end, but it made sense to go after those that were after us all as opposed to one person who wasn't after any of us at that given time. Taking kat out left us vulnerable not only with hohs, but with votes as well. I don't like the "I told you so" game, but when I found out u told ppl about peen during your hoh, it bothered me so I decided to say something and then it sorta turned into this discussion.
As for me and shadow.. We had a f2 since before I even started playing urtv8. After bb12, I told shadow we needed an alliance. Hated brigade, but they were brilliant. We didn't end up doing what they did with their side alliance, but we were tight. I wanted the 4th member to be someone u were tight with so that no one would feel left out. That's why we didn't push for kat or animal or Cody. When Jenna got evicted, I had a feelin it would be our downfall. No one wants to be third wheel. I get that. We didn't tell u cuz obv u were hoh and we thought u might actually nom shadow. And obv u don't admit to f2s. I'm sorry.
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Post by Nat ~ on Apr 10, 2011 8:33:49 GMT -5
No no you don't need to be sorry its playing the game I just wanted to know for sure. Its all good and I totally get that everything is all in how you percieve it. I mean we both already said that we'll probably never agree on what what down the week of my hoh. But now knowing you and he had a final 2 for sure (after already assuming it then) I don't have to feel quite as bad about playing for my self. And this discussion isn't like an argument or whatever it is just both of us just discussing our point of views haha.
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Post by Sarah on Apr 10, 2011 19:41:33 GMT -5
this game is making me CRAZYYYY i really hope cody doesnt get evicted this week. right now, he is the main concern!
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Post by Nat ~ on Apr 10, 2011 22:35:24 GMT -5
my concern is for any of these three: cody/jason/billy. i mean its pretty obvious one of the three will be joining us, but it would be pretty hilarious if billy won veto and saved jason and jee went up oops.
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Post by Sarah on Apr 18, 2011 7:47:24 GMT -5
I wanna like kc's post "hi." WTF is Casey waiting for with this fkn Veto ceremony!? Just fucking post it already! God.
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Post by Sarah on Apr 18, 2011 12:37:53 GMT -5
lol kc... At this point, I would just take veto away from him I HATE ppl who drag shit out! Just fkn post it already, OMFG!!!!!
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Post by Sarah on Apr 18, 2011 21:32:53 GMT -5
Y is Casey is so fkn SLOWWWWWWW? god!
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Post by Nat ~ on Apr 18, 2011 21:49:45 GMT -5
nothing yet? seriously geeeeze!
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Post by Nat ~ on Apr 18, 2011 22:48:49 GMT -5
i think theres a 90% chance we'll be seeing cody here this week, bleh. i hate that animal won hoh. i dont want to see any of billy/cody/jason here, but casey is probably gonna save jason so that makes me happy, but its still all bittersweet.
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